Thomas Collins

Thomas Collins

Male 1764 - 1820  (~ 55 years)

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  • Name Thomas Collins 
    Born 17 Jul 1764?  London, Middlesex, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Possible Birth
      This could be the correct correct Thomas Collins

      It was noted that at his trial, Thomas Collins spoke the cant or slang of London's criminal underworld, centred on
      St Giles Parish. After his arrest he was held in the St Giles Round House
      (The Second Fleeters)

      Name Thomas Collins
      Gender Male
      Christening Date 01 Aug 1764
      Christening Place ST GILES CRIPPLEGATE,LONDON,LONDON,ENGLAND
      Father's Name Thomas Collins
      Mother's Name Lydia
      ("England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch )

      Brother
      Name John Collins
      Gender Male
      Christening Date 27 Feb 1767
      Christening Place ST GILES CRIPPLEGATE,LONDON,LONDON,ENGLAND
      Father's Name Thomas Collins
      Mother's Name Lydia
      ("England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch )

      Sister
      Name Sarah Collins
      Gender Female
      Christening Date 04 Aug 1769
      Christening Place ST GILES CRIPPLEGATE,LONDON,LONDON,ENGLAND
      Father's Name Thomas Collins
      Mother's Name Lydia
      ("England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch )

      Brother
      Name William Collins
      Gender Male
      Christening Date 19 Jan 1772
      Christening Place ST GILES CRIPPLEGATE,LONDON,LONDON,ENGLAND
      Father's Name Thomas Collins
      Mother's Name Lydia
      ("England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch )

      A Marriage
      Name: Thomas Collins
      Spouse: Lydia Clay
      Record Type: Banns
      Event Date: 28 Oct 1763
      Parish: St Leonard, Shoreditch
      Borough: Hackney
      (London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921)
      This Thomas Collins was a widower

      or
      Name Thomas Collins
      Gender Male
      Christening Date 26 Oct 1766
      Christening Place ST MARY WHITECHAPEL,STEPNEY,LONDON,ENGLAND
      Father's Name Thomas Collins
      Mother's Name Sarah
      "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch

      Death
      First name(s) Lydia
      Last name Collins
      Age at death 56
      Birth year 1742
      Burial year 1798
      Burial date 12 Jun 1798
      Notes St Bartholomew's Hospital
      Parish Clerkenwell, St John
      Address -
      City London
      County Middlesex
      Source City of London Burials 1754-1855
      Record set Greater London Burial Index
      Category Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
      Subcategory Parish Burials
      Collections from England, United Kingdom
      Greater London Burial Index

      First name(s) Lydia
      Last name Collins
      Age at death -
      Birth year -
      Burial year 1774
      Burial date 15 May 1774
      Parish St Botolph Without Aldersgate
      Address -
      City London
      County London
      Guildhall reference GL Mss 3858/2-4
      Source City of London Burials 1754-1855
      Record set Greater London Burial Index
      Category Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
      Subcategory Parish Burials
      Collections from England, United Kingdom
      Greater London Burial Index

      Death
      First name(s) T
      Last name Collins
      Age at death 30
      Birth year 1739
      Burial year 1769
      Burial date 03 Jun 1769
      Parish St Sepulchre Without Newgate
      Address Cow Lane
      City London
      County London
      Guildhall reference GL Mss 7223/5-7
      Source City of London Burials 1754-1855
      Record set Greater London Burial Index
      Category Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
      Subcategory Parish Burials
      Collections from England, United Kingdom


      New South Wales, Census and Population Books, 1811-1825
      Name: Thos Collins
      Residence Year: 1811
      Residence: New South Wales, Australia
      Arrival Ship: Scarbro
      Record Type: Population Book
      Title: Population Muster, 1811

      MESSENGER, Thomas 1795 Convict Scarborough 1790.
      (Second Fleeters from 1790 who died on Norfolk Island)

      Thomas Collins
      Trial: Middlesex, 9 Sep 1789
      Sentence: Life
      Arrival on the Scarborough
      Death, Sydney, 19 Feb 1920
      Age: 54
      56,30,56,27.
      (Australia Convict Ships 1786-1849)

      First name(s) Thomas
      Last name Collins
      Conviction year 1789
      Place convicted Middlesex
      County convicted Middlesex
      Country convicted England
      Sentence Life
      Arrival year -
      Ship name Scarborough
      Series Indents From Early Fleet Ships 1786-1799 (Nrs 1150)
      Reel 392
      Archive State Records Authority of New South Wales
      Record set Australia Convict Ships 1786-1849
      Category Immigration & Travel
      Subcategory Transportation
      Collections from Australia & New Zealand
      Australia Convict Ships 1786-1849

      Old Bailey Proceedings punishment summary.
      27th February 1788
      The Trials being ended, the Court proceeded to give Judgment as follows:

      Received Sentence of Death, 14, viz.
      Lydia Jones , Thomas Granger , Thomas Collins , Elizabeth Smith

      Thomas Collins, defendant name in Punishment summary, 9th September 1789.

      The Sessions being ended, the Court proceeded to pass Judgment as follows. Received sentence of Death,
      Thomas Collins, Thomas Grainger

      The following capital convicts accepted his Majesty's pardon, on condition of being transported for life
      Thomas Collins , Thomas Grainger

      Lydia Jones , Thomas Granger , Thomas Collins , Elizabeth Smith

      First name(s) Thomas
      Last name Collins
      Birth year -
      Arrival year 1790
      Ship name Scarborough
      Where convicted Old Bailey
      When convicted 1788
      Occupation Mariner
      Residence Sydney
      State New South Wales
      Country Australia
      Record set New South Wales And Tasmania: Settlers And Convicts 1787-1859
      Category Immigration & Travel
      Subcategory Transportation
      Collections from Australia & New Zealand
      (New South Wales and Tasmania: Settlers and Convicts 1787-1859)

      Thomas Collins, one of 1063 convicts transported on the Neptune, Scarborough and Surprize, December 1789
      Thomas Collins, one of 1063 convicts transported on the Neptune, Scarborough and Surprize, December 1789
      COLLINS, Thomas

      1814 May 24
      Evidence at enquiry on conduct of military officers on "Three Bees" (Reel 6044; 4/1730 pp.112-20)

      1815 Oct 29
      Signed agreement assigning Hannah Greaves as his servant (Reel 6045; 4/1733 p.15)

      Given names Celia
      Surname Collins
      Married Name Celia Cavanough

      Could have been Thomas Collins per Neptune 1790 who married Sarah Miles (second fleet) in 1790 and had a child to Eleanor O'Brien (Sugar Cane 1793) in 1796. After that his whereabouts become unclear.

      First name(s) Celia
      Last name Collins
      Denomination Church Of England
      Marriage year 1824
      Registration year 1824
      Registration district Windsor, St Matthew's
      State New South Wales
      Country Australia
      Spouse's first name(s) Owen
      Spouse's last name Cavanagh
      Registration number -
      Volume reference V18243457 3B
      Cross reference -
      Record set New South Wales Marriages 1788-1945
      Category Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
      Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
      Collections from Australia & New Zealand


      First name(s) Celia
      Last name Cavanough
      Denomination -
      Marriage year 1868
      Registration year 1868
      Registration district Windsor
      State New South Wales
      Country Australia
      Spouse's first name(s) John
      Spouse's last name Smallwood
      Registration number 3638
      Volume reference -
      Cross reference -
      Record set New South Wales Marriages 1788-1945
      Category Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
      Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
      Collections from Australia & New Zealand
      New South Wales Marriages 1788-1945

      Celia Collins

      Born: c.1810.
      Status: Free, born in the colony.
      Married: Owen Cavanagh in1824 at St Matthew's Church of England, Windsor, N.S.W.
      Occupation:
      Died: c1890 in Windsor, N.S.W.
      Buried:
      Father: Thomas Collins.
      Mother: Elizabeth Dring.

      Profile:
      During the Macquarie era Celia, the daughter of Thomas & Elizabeth (Dring) was baptized at St Matthew?s Church of England, Windsor, N.S.W. ? V1810 3914 1B

      After the Macquarie era not found in the Musters
      Celia married Owen Cavanagh at St Matthew?s Church of England, Windsor, N.S.W. ? V1824 3457 3B

      1828 Census: Selina Cavanagh, 18, BC, living at Lower Portland Head with Owen & James, an infant (mother Celia in index).
      Cecilia Cavanough, daughter of Elizabeth, died 1890, registered Windsor, N.S.W. ? 1890 13832

      Researched & submitted by Association member F O?Donnell.
      References:
      NSW Pioneer/Federation Birth, Death & Marriage Indexes.
      General Muster and Land and Stock Muster of NSW. 1822 ? ABGR - 1988.
      General Muster List of New South Wales ? 1823, 1824, 1825 ? ABGR - 1999.

      First name(s) Celia
      Last name Dring
      Gender Female
      Residence New South Wales, Australia
      Birth year 1810
      Baptism year 1816
      Baptism date 11 Aug 1816
      Baptism place Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia
      State New South Wales
      Country Australia
      Father's first name(s) Thomas
      Father's last name Collins
      Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
      Mother's last name Dring
      Record set Australia, Births & Baptisms, 1792-1981
      Category Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
      Subcategory Civil Births
      Collections from Australia & New Zealand
      Australia, Births and Baptisms, 1792-1981

    Christened 1 Aug 1764  St Giles, Cripplegate, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Trial 27 Feb 1788  Old Bailey, London Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Violent Theft > robbery, 27th February 1788.

    195. LYDIA JONES , THOMAS GRANGER , THOMAS COLLINS ; ELIZABETH SMITH , THOMAS MESSENGER , ROGER MOLLOY , and JANE MOLLOY were indicted for that they, on the 16th of January , in the dwelling-house of Luke Murphy , in and upon John Whitehouse , did make an assault, putting him in corporal fear and danger of his life, and stealing from his person, a linen handkerchief, value 1 d. a silk handkerchief, value 4 s. a stone seal, value 1 s. two half guineas, twelve halfpence, and 6 s. in monies numbered, and a promissory note, called a Birmingham bank note, for 5 l. 5 s. and a bill of exchange for 5 l. the property of the said John Whitehouse .

    JOHN WHITEHOUSE sworn.

    I am a plater and brass-founder in Stracy-street; I was going home on the 16th of January, between eleven and twelve at night, from Mr. Brookes's, who keeps the sign of the Sun, the corner of Lincoln's-inn-fields; I went up Stone-cutter's-alley, and just as I was going up some steps into King-street, I met Lydia Jones , who seemed to be in a very miserable situation, and begged I would give her something; she said she had had nothing for three days; I gave her a shilling; she thanked me and followed me, and said she was my countrywoman.

    Where was this? - In Cross-lane , she said she had three children in the same condition, I desired to see them, and went with her, and went up into her room; it was a very miserable place, there was a candle burning on the table; when I got into the room, she said, you and I can have a night's lodging together; I said I did not come on that business; where are the children you pointed out to me? I did not come on that business, I have got a wife at home I was going to, but you have decoyed me into this dismal place; she directly stamped with her foot, and called for some gin; the room-door was never shut; I told her I should drink no gin, and was going away; I got as near the door as I could, then the two young men came into the room.

    Which two? - The two outside ones, Granger and Collins.

    Those two men came into the room? - Yes.

    Are you sure those were the two young men? - Yes, I am; one got hold of one of my hands, and the other of the other, and the little woman came into the room; the tall woman was not out of the room, she remained in the room.

    What is the little woman's name? - She acknowledged to the name of Smith the next day at the Justice's; while they had hold of my arms, knowing I had the notes, in this pocket, I leaned back as well as I could, to prevent them from taking them out; she pushed to that pocket, and took them out; they were in my breeches pocket; she dropped a letter and a bill of parcels on the floor, and then ran out of the room.

    Did they take any thing besides the notes? - Yes, they took my cash; two of them had their hands in my pockets, Collins and the little woman; they took two half guineas, six shillings and some halfpence; then I recovered myself a little, they wanted to get away; I laid hold of one man with the one hand, and of the other with the other hand, and said, they had robbed me of forty or fifty pounds, and I would lose my life before I would let them go.

    What did Jones do? - She pulled my handkerchief off my neck, while they had hold of me.

    The four people were Granger, Collins, Jones and Smith? - Yes.

    Who did you lay hold of? - Collins and Granger.

    Did any body else come in before you laid hold of them? - Yes, Messenger came in, and picked up part of the writings which the little woman had dropped.

    When did she run out? - As soon as she had taken the notes out of my pocket.

    Before you laid hold of Collins and Granger? - Yes, Messenger came in before I laid hold of Collins and Granger, and picked up some of the papers, and went out again; Smith came in again while I had hold of them, and she scratched my hand, and kicked my legs; that they bled in several places; I could not put them out of the way because I had fast hold of the men; then Messenger came back and laid hold of me by the coat, in order to pull me to the top of the stairs; while he was doing this, and the other kicking me, Collins got out of my hand, and ran out of that room; the woman who belonged to the house, whom I had never seen, hearing the noise, called the watch, and the watch was coming in at the door of the house, as Collins got out of my hand; he came up stairs, and soon after another man, Stack; I gave him charge of Jones, and Smith, and Granger, and told him there was a young man just gone down stairs; I was afraid he was gone out; he said nobody had gone by him; the woman belonging to the house said she was sure he was not gone by, and she would search the next room; she took the candle in her hand, and looked into the lower closet, and said, here he is; I looked into the place, and said, you must come out young man; as soon as I laid hold of him, he tried to throw me down; but I was too strong for him; I said to the watchman, search his mouth; I saw he had something in it, I thought he had my notes; he put out two shillings and an halfpenny, and said, blast you take it; I assisted in taking them to the watch-house; they were searched at the watch-house, but none of the notes found.

    What was found upon them? - There was nothing found upon them there, that I could swear to; they had given the notes to another girl to take care of.

    There were those five people in the room at one time or another, Jones, Granger, Collins, Smith, and Messenger? - Yes.

    No more? - No more.

    Messenger was not taken that night? - No; the next day when I went before the Justice, I said there was an old man; they would not fully commit the others till he was taken; I took a neighbour with me down to the house, and asked the woman the name of the old man; she said it was Messenger, and while I was there he came in; that is the man; as soon as he came in I know him again, though it was candlelight when I saw him before; I said you are the man I want, I was looking for you, you must go with me; he said, blast your eyes, I will cut your bloody melt out; I told him it was no use to struggle, he should go with me; he then went readily, and shewed me the nighest way to the watch-house; the constable searched and found a handkerchief of mine upon him, and a duplicate in his pocket; I went with the officer to the pawnbroker's, Mr. Woodins, the corner of King's-street, Drury-lane.

    Was anything else found? - An old handkerchief of mine in his pocket, the duplicates were tied up in.

    Was there anything else of your property found? - No, not upon them, there was afterwards a note found, and two pieces of two five guinea notes were found in the room, there was a five guinea note thrown on the floor and found with a letter.

    Was there anything else found? - Yes, the week after, Ann Bevington , a girl, who slept that night in the next room, with whom they left the notes to secret them, she gave it to a man of the name of White, who went to pay one away to a man who keeps an hardware shop in Covent-Garden; he asked him how he came by it; and said he had a friend who had been robbed of that and some other notes; he is not here.

    MARY MURPHY sworn.

    My husband, Luke Murphy , keeps a house in Cross-lane, St. Giles's. Jones, Messenger, and Smith, lodged at my house.

    Tell us what you know about this transaction? - A little before 12 o'clock, Jones came running down stairs very much frightened, and Granger came running down; I asked what was the matter? Messenger was fetching water for me; Jones said to Messenger, damn you, why did not you come up to me?

    Do you keep a common lodging-house? - Yes: then Granger came running down; I asked what was the matter? Granger said there was a man above was robbed of some property; I gave my child to the maid and called the watch, and shut the street-door, and desired the girl not to open it till the watch came; I said, Jones, go up stairs; she said, Tom, come along; he said no he would not; I said to Granger, you must go up too; he said he would go up with me; Whitehouse was then making a great noise; they went up with me, and I said what is the matter? Whitehouse said he had been robbed of 40 or 50 l.; he then said to Granger, you are one of the fellows that was here with me; with that I went into the room and asked Smith, where is the other fellow? she said she did not know, there was no one in the room; I went to the window and called the watch again.

    Was there any other girl there but Smith? - Yes, there was a little girl in bed in Smith's room.

    Was there any body in Jones's room? - No, I went to the window and called the watch, the watch then came; I said to Smith, where is the fellow that was in white here? she said there was no one; I looked, and found him in the cupboard, and said to him, come out of that; I said, when Collins came out of the cupboard, I said you have something in your mouth, is it paper? he said no, this is what I have got in my mouth; the watchman came, and as they were going down stairs, I said here is some paper in the room; the watchman came with me into Jones's room; there were a great many papers; I picked up a 5 l. draught, the gentleman said was payable the next day; I gave it to one of the watchmen.

    Now mind that you speak the whole truth, for you will get into a scrape if you do not; the first you heard of it was Jones coming down stairs? - Yes.

    Upon your oath did not you before that call the watch, and then go up stairs to see what was the matter? - No, not till Lydia Jones and Granger came down stairs, and I went up with them.

    Where was Messenger before? - Below stairs, fetching water for me.

    How long was he come down stairs? - I don't know that he was up stairs at all, he was fetching water for me three quarters of an hour.

    Can you or not swear whether he was up stairs before or not? - I don't know whether he was or not, he was fetching water for me three quarters of an hour.

    To Whitehouse. I understood you that Jones and Smith and Granger were never out of the room till the watchman came? - Jones got my handkerchief off and went out with it; they were in the room when the watchman came.

    Did Jones go out of the room after she took the handkerchief? - Yes, with the handkerchief in her hand, and came in again afterwards, but I think she had not time to get down stairs; both the women had been out of the room and came in again, they left me with these men.

    Was Jones in the room or out of the room when you laid hold of Collins and Granger? - She had just gone out as I laid hold of them.

    After you laid hold of Collins and Granger, how soon did Jones come in? - I suppose she was not half a minute away; Messenger had been in the room and taken the papers.

    Was that before Jones ran out? - Messenger came in before she had taken the handkerchief off and been out of the room, and picked up these papers.

    Messenger came back a second time? - Yes, he did.

    Did Granger ever get away from you? - He never was away.

    He never went down stairs? - Not before the watchman came in.

    You are sure of that? - Yes.

    Then Mrs. Murphy don't say true in that? - No.

    Collins got out of your hands? - Yes.

    But not Granger? - No.

    Who came up with the woman of the house? - I don't recollect any body coming with her, without it was the watchman, I believe they came together.

    The woman of the house did not come up with Jones and Granger? - No.

    Was Jones in the room again before the watch was called? - Yes, when the watch came up they were in the room together.

    Did Messenger get down before the watchman was called? - Yes, he did.

    When Messenger laid hold of you to pull you down stairs, how came he to quit you? - He could not get me to the stairs, I turned to lay hold of him, and he let me go and ran down.

    That was at the time Collins got from you? - Yes.

    When the watchman and the woman of the house came up, Smith, Collins, and Granger, were with you in the room? - Yes.

    That was the room in which you had been robbed? - Yes.

    JOHN M'GUINIS sworn.

    I am a watchman in Cross-lane; about 12 o'clock I heard the alarm of watch cried out, my box is within 10 yards of Murphy's door, where I heard the alarm; I came to the door and a woman opened it.

    Who was that woman? - I cannot tell; Mrs. Murphy told me there was a robbery committed above stairs; she was going up stairs before, and told me to make haste up; up I went; Collins was coming out, and I stopped him.

    Where was he? - He was coming at the head of the stairs in order to make off; I said nobody should go out till I knew what had happened; I brought him into the room where the prosecutor and the rest of the company was.

    Are you sure of that? - I am; he was just come out of the door at the head of the stairs.

    Then it is not true that he was hid in the closet? - I had not seen him in the closet.

    Be as particular as you can; you were alarmed with a noise at Murphy's house? - Yes.

    You went there, and some woman opened the door? - Yes.

    You followed Mrs. Murphy up stairs? - Yes.

    What room did you go into? - The room where the prosecutor and the people were.

    Did you meet any body before you went into the room at all? - Yes, I met Collins coming out of the door before I went into the room; I told him no person should go out till I knew what had happened, and took him into the room; I found there Lydia Jones , Granger and Smith, and two other young women, I did not know their names.

    You went in before Stack? - Yes; I found the prosecutor doing his endeavour to stop any person that was in the room, struggling, as if to keep the people in; I asked him what was the matter? he told me he was robbed to the value of 40 l. or 50 l.; I asked him who were the people that robbed him? he accused Collins, Granger, Jones and Smith; Mrs. Murphy observed Collins had something in his mouth; I charged him to produce whatever he had; he said he had nothing at all; I said he should produce whatever he had, and he produced 2 s. and a bad halfpenny.

    Where was Collins just before the things were found in his mouth? - In the room where the prosecutor was robbed.

    Was not you in the other room at all? - No, not till I took them to the watch-house, then I went into all the rooms.

    Mrs. Murphy was up before you? - Yes, just before me; after I found the money in Collins's mouth we had some more assistance, and took them to the watch-house.

    Nothing was found when they were searched? - No.

    Was not there a paper given to you that was found in the room? - Not to me, it was given to the other watchman Stack.

    To Mrs. Murphy. Did you go up before the watchman? - Yes, I called the watch at the street door; Lydia Jones , and Granger ran down stairs and I called the watch, and then shut the door; they went up stairs.

    The prosecutor says that Granger was never down stairs? - Upon my oath he was.

    Was the watchman come when you found Collins in the closet? - No, he was not come, I went to the window and called watch again.

    Do you mean to say before that Granger came down stairs? - I did.

    ANN BEVINGTON sworn.

    I was along with Elizabeth Smith at Murphy's house, in bed, in the next room to Jones's; on Wednesday evening Mrs. Jones brought this man up stairs; they were a little while up stairs, and presently after she knocked for a quartern of gin, and went to the window and called for change for a shilling; soon after she had had the gin, she came to our room and asked for the bellows.

    The gin was brought up? - Yes, and change in about 10 minutes.

    Was Smith in your room? - Yes, Smith and Collins and Granger were sitting round the fire; I cannot say whether Jane Molloy was in the room, or gone down for a candle; Jones said to Smith, will you come into my room with me, and Smith went in the room with Jones; after she was gone into the room, I heard Jones say don't strike any body here, and then Collins and Granger ran into the room; presently after, I heard the gentleman cry out, I am robbed of 50 l.; Smith immediately ran to me and gave me these notes, and told me to hide them, and I did in the bolster, there was a hole tore before in the bolster; Smith told me to take them to her brother in the morning, which I did; the next morning when I got up, I found a note by the side of the bed, I cannot say whether I dropped it, or she in giving them to me; I gave that first to Jane Molloy , and then we gave it to Sarah Elliot ; she told Sarah Elliot she found it, and Sarah Elliot gave it to a baker to change that served her with bread, I dont't know his name.

    Did you go out of your room at all that night before the watchman came? - No, I had nothing to go out in.

    Did anybody come into your room? - Yes, Collins, and ran into the cupboard.

    That was after the prosecutor said he had been robbed? - Yes.

    Who did you give the notes to the next morning? - To Frank Smith; and on Friday morning I went to Frank Smith , and he gave me half-a-guinea; I being in distress, took it, and paid Molloy half-a crown.

    You never saw the notes afterwards? -

    No; one I gave to Elliot, that I saw afterwards at the Justice's.

    SARAH ELLIOT sworn.

    Do you know any thing of this transaction? - Ann Bevington and Molloy came to me, and told me that they had found this note, and gave it me, I gave it to my baker, one White; I saw it afterwards at the Justice's.

    JACOB FREEMAN sworn.

    Hearing of this robbery in the morning, Meacham and I and another officer went and searched the room where the robbery was committed, and found two pieces of two different notes in the very room where he was robbed; I made all the enquiry I could to trace the notes; hearing of this note being offered, I went and took the baker into custody, and he took me to Elliot, of whom he said he had it; she said she found it in Drury-lane; at last she said she had it of Ann Bevington ; I went and took her into custody.

    What became of White? - When he took me to the house of Elliot, just as I put my hand on the door to come away, he ran off, I have never met with him since.

    Who did you get the note from? - White the Baker; it was shewed to Elliot in his presence, and she acknowledged giving it to him.

    (The note was produced in Court.)

    To Elliot. Look at that note? - That is the note I received from Bevington; I know it by its being torn at the corner.

    To Bevington. Look at that note? - I think that is the note I gave to my sister, I found it by the bedside.

    GEORGE MEACHAM sworn.

    I searched the lodgings; by the fireplace in the room where the prosecutor was robbed, I found pieces of two notes (producing them) one piece fits that note; about two o'clock or after, I was sent for by the prosecutor.

    To Whitehouse. What notes had you in your pocket that night? - Six Birmingham and one Woolverhampton, and one 5 l. note; I lost them all.

    Had you any account of the dates and numbers of these notes of your own making? - No, I afterwards got the best account I could.

    Who were they made payable to? - Them at the Old Bank were made payable to Story.

    To Meacham. About two or after you was sent for by the prosecutor? - Yes, he said he had another man in custody; I went to the watch-house, found Messenger and searched him; I found an old ragged handkerchief in his pocket, and in the corner of it were tied up three duplicates; one of which was an handkerchief pawned by Messenger that day for two shillings, at the corner of King-street, Drury-lane; by this duplicate I found the handkerchief at Mr. Woodin's; the old handkerchief I forgot, and left at home this afternoon.

    EDWARD HANSON sworn.

    I am servant to Mr. Woodin in Drury-lane.

    Is that your duplicate? - Yes; I cannot say whether it was Messenger that pledged the handkerchief; the person who received it is since dead; I saw Messenger in the shop that morning; here is the counterpart of the duplicate, which was fixed to the property.

    (The handkerchief was produced in Court, and deposed to by the prosecutor.)

    JONES's DEFENCE.

    A stranger gave me a shilling, and I took it; and as I was sitting by my own fireside, I heard him say he was robbed; Granger and I went down to Mrs. Murphy, and told I her.

    SMITH's DEFENCE.

    I was sitting by my own fire-side, Jones came up with the gentleman, and asked for a light; we gave her the light; she called Bevington in, and she came out again with some papers, and said they were bank notes; I said I would have nothing to do with them; she said if I would not have something to do with them, she would swear her soul as black as a new shoe against me, and bid me not be afraid to have to do with a robbery.

    GRANGER's DEFENCE.

    I was coming by the place where the robbery was committed; hearing a noise I went up stairs to see what was the matter; the gentleman said he was robbed, and I ran down stairs and told Mrs. Murphy, and desired her to come up, and I went up with her.

    COLLINS's DEFENCE.

    Lydia Jones came in for the bellows, and said she had a cull in the room, and said that she could not do him, he was sullen; Smith went in, and I went down stairs, and met the watchman.

    MESSENGER's DEFENCE.

    On the 16th of January, between eleven and twelve at night, the water came in; Mrs. Murphy asked me to fill her water-tub; when I was done she asked me to set down; somebody said the gentleman was robbed, and Mrs. Murphy went up stairs, and desired me to come up; there was a man in Smith's room; I never went up stairs till I went up with Mrs. Murphy; I never was near Whitehouse, I never spoke to him, and never was up stairs but that once; the next morning as I was coming home with a lighted candle; coming down Newtoner's-street, I found the handkerchief, and picked it up and pawned it.

    (There not being any evidence to affect Roger and Jane Molloy , they were not out upon their defence.)

    ROGER MOLLOY , JANE MOLLOY ,

    NOT GUILTY .

    JONES, GRANGER, COLLINS, SMITH, MESSENGER,

    GUILTY , Death .

    Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.
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    Convict Arrival 28 Jun 1790  From England on Ship Scarborough, Second Fleet Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Name: Thomas Collins
    Vessel: Neptune, Scarborough, Surprize
    Fleet: Second
    Convicted Date: 9 Sep 1789
    Voyage Date: Dec 1789
    Colony: New South Wales
    Place of Conviction: Middlesex, England
    (Australian Convict Transportation Registers-Second Fleet, 1789-1790)

    Scarborough
    Transport ship of 418 tons, she was part of the First Fleet. She sailed from England with 253 male convicts on January 19th, 1790. Her master was again John Marshall and the surgeon was Augustus Beyer. Following the wreck of the H.M.S. Guardian she took on a further 8 male convicts. Date Arrived : Sydney 28 June 1790. 73 convicts died on the voyage

    Thomas Collins was sentenced to death

    Thomas Collins, defendant name in Punishment summary, 9th September 1789.

    The Sessions being ended, the Court proceeded to pass Judgment as follows. Received sentence of Death,
    Thomas Collins, Thomas Grainger

    The following capital convicts accepted his Majesty's pardon, on condition of being transported for life
    Thomas Collins , Thomas Grainger

    Thomas Collins was a settler in 1816
    Name: Thomas Collins
    Arrival Date: Jun 1790
    Vessel: Scarborough
    Fleet: Second
    Province: New South Wales
    Title: Male
    Year(s): 1816
    Place of Conviction: Old Bailey
    (New South Wales, Australia, Settler and Convict Lists, 1787-1834)

    Name: Thomas Collins
    Date of Conviction: 9 Sep 1789
    Place of Conviction: Middlesex
    Vessel: Scarborough
    Date of Arrival: Jun 1790
    (New South Wales, Australia, Convict Indents, 1788-1842)

    On 28 June 1790 the remainder of the Second Fleet arrived in Port Jackson - the Surprize, Neptune and Scarborough, with a detachment of New South Wales Corps sent to replace the Marines. They had departed Portsmouth 19th January 1790.

    There were plans of mutiny on the Scarborough however they came to nothing when one of the prisoners informed the Captain.The Annual Register recorded the following account of Samuel Burt
    A letter has been received from Samuel Burt, the person convicted of forgery, but pardoned on condition of going to New South Wales; dated from on board the Scarborough transport, False Bay, which contains the following account:

    "On the 12th February, our ship having separated from the Surprize transport, the Neptune being a great way ahead, and the sea perfectly calm, the convicts began to whisper from one to the other their mutinous intentions; the plot being communicated to myself, I readily agreed to the scheme, assenting to every proposal of plunder and murder, until such time as I became completely master of the conspiracy, and the ringleaders of it. I then apprised the captain of the ship, and the military officers, of the danger they were likely to encounter; and so thoroughly did my information prepare them for the business, that with little or no trouble the ringleaders were secured, and the scheme entirely frustrated. The particulars being enquired into, they made such confessions that human nature would almost shudder at the thoughts of. Several of them have been flogged with the greatest severity, and others of more dangerous description are at this time chained to the deck and it is supposed will be tried and executed immediately on their arrival in New South Wales".

    Second Fleet
    A second fleet of five ships left England - Guardian, Justinian, Surprize, Neptune, Scarborough. The Guardian struck ice, and was unable to complete the voyage. She was stocked with provisions. Only 48 people died in the first group of ships, but this time 278 died during the voyage. This time transporting the convicts was in the hands of private contractors. The ship Mary Anne and Gorgon are sometimes listed as in the 3rd Fleet but the vessels and their sources from the Australian National Archives lists them in the 2nd Fleet. The Lady Juliana, sometimes listed in the second fleet is listed in the Archives in the 1st Fleet.

    Thomas Collins was one of the convicts on the Scarborough.
    204, COLLINS, Thomas, tried, Middlesex, sentence, Life

    Name: Thomas Collins
    Arrival Date: Jun 1790
    Vessel: Scarborough
    Fleet: Second
    Province: New South Wales
    Title: Male
    Year(s): 1816
    (New South Wales, Australia, Settler and Convict Lists, 1787-1834)

    New South Wales and Tasmania: Settlers and Convicts 1787-1859
    First name(s) Thomas
    Last name Collins
    Place of Conviction: Old Bailey
    First name(s) Thomas
    Last name Collins
    Birth year-
    Arrival year 1790
    Ship name Scarborough
    Where convicted Old Bailey
    When convicted 1788
    Occupation Mariner
    Residence Sydney
    State New South Wales
    Country Australia
    Record set New South Wales and Tasmania: Settlers and Convicts 1787-1859
    Category Travel & migration
    Subcategory Transportation
    Collections from Australasia
    (Find My Past Record)

    Thomas Collins
    Trial: Middlesex, 9 Sep 1789
    Sentence: Life
    Arrival on the Scarborough
    Death, Sydney, 19 Feb 1920
    Age: 54
    56,30,56,27.
    (Australia Convict Ships 1786-1849)

    First name(s) Thomas
    Last name Collins
    Conviction year 1789
    Place convicted Middlesex
    County convicted Middlesex
    Country convicted England
    Sentence Life
    Arrival year -
    Ship name Scarborough
    Series Indents From Early Fleet Ships 1786-1799 (Nrs 1150)
    Reel 392
    Archive State Records Authority of New South Wales
    Record set Australia Convict Ships 1786-1849
    Category Immigration & Travel
    Subcategory Transportation
    Collections from Australia & New Zealand
    Australia Convict Ships 1786-1849
     
    Convict Pardon 18 Jan 1801  Sydney, New South wales Find all individuals with events at this location 
    18 Jan 1801
    Thomas Collins received a Conditional Pardon from Governor King and remained in the Colony.

    Surname: COLLINS
    First Name: Thomas
    Date: 18 Jan 1801
    Record Type: Conditional Pardon
    Citation: [4/4430; Reel 774 Page 013]
    (Convict Pardons, 1791-1873)

    Muster List 1800-1802
    New South Wales and Norfolk Island 1800-1802
    S BG 17
    Thomas Collins
    Pardoned by King
    Seaman
    Remaining in the Colony

    Philip Gidley King was 3rd Governor of New South Wales In office
    28 September 1800-August 1806

    Name: Thos Collins
    Vessel: Scarboro
    Province: New South Wales
    Title: General muster
    Year(s): 1811
    Place of Conviction: Old Bailey
    (New South Wales and Tasmania, Australia Convict Musters, 1806-1849)

    Thos Collins, Scaroboro, trial 1788, Old Bailey, sentence Life

     
    Personal 1816  Sydney, New South Wales Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Name: Thomas Collins
    Arrival Date: Jun 1790
    Vessel: Scarborough
    Fleet: Second
    Province: New South Wales
    Title: Male
    Year(s): 1816
    Place of Conviction: Old Bailey
    (New South Wales, Australia, Settler and Convict Lists, 1787-1834)

    Thomas Collins is listed as a settler.

    Collins, Thomas, arrived in the colony, Jun 1790 on the ship Scarborough, tried at the Old Bailey, March 1789.
    (New South Wales, Australia, Settler and Convict Lists, 1787-1834)

    1816
    Collins, Thomas, arrival date, June 1790, ship Scarborough, tried, Old Bailey, March 1788
    (From (New South Wales, Australia, Settler and Convict Lists, 1787-1834)

    Name: Thos Collins
    Vessel: Scarboro
    Province: New South Wales
    Title: General muster
    Year(s): 1811
    Place of Conviction: Old Bailey
    (New South Wales and Tasmania, Australia Convict Musters, 1806-1849)
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    Thos. Collins, Scarboro, Trial March 1788, Old Bailey, sentence, life
    (New South Wales and Tasmania, Australia Convict Musters, 1806-1849)

    Graves, Hannah, date of arrival, October 1812, ship Minstrell, master of Ship, Reed, convicted at Carlisle, August 1811, 14 years
    (From (New South Wales, Australia, Settler and Convict Lists, 1787-1834)

    Thomas Collins
    Trial
    Old Bailey Sessions 27th. Feb 1788-March 1788
    Temporary respite from hanging until Sep 1789.

    Middlesex, 9th September 1789, sentence, life
    Collins, Thomas
    Messenger, Thomas
    Grainger, Thomas,
    Collins Thomas
    (New South Wales, Australia, Convict Indents, 1788-1842)

    Old Bailey Proceedings punishment summary, 27th February 1788.
    The Trials being ended, the Court proceeded to give Judgment as follows:
    Received Sentence of Death, 14, viz.
    William Turner , William Ludlam (convicted last Sessions of forgery;) Thomas Holyoak , William Oates , Samuel Crafts , James Haylock , alias Hullock, Lydia Jones , Thomas Granger , Thomas Collins , Elizabeth Smith , John Bishop , alias Butler, Martha Cutler , Sarah Cowden , and Sarah Storer .

    Thomas Collins, defendant name in Supplementary material, 9th September 1789.
    The following capital convicts accepted his Majesty's pardon, on condition of being transported for life .

    Thomas Vallame , Daniel Collins , William Shurberd , Thomas Ransom , William Bead , John Gervalt , William Allen , John Wright . Joseph Reay , Solomon Pocock , Thomas Smith , Richard Allen , James Usher , Thomas Glaves , John Crompton , George Ellison , William Barton , Richard Joy , William Adams , Daniel Henley , James Everard , Peter Bolton , James Lara , Thomas Collins , Thomas Grainger , Thomas Collins

    Two Thomas Collins

    Name: Thomas Collins
    Date of Conviction: 9 Sep 1789
    Place of Conviction: Middlesex
    Vessel: Scarborough
    Date of Arrival: Jun 1790
    ( New South Wales, Australia, Convict Indents, 1788-1842)
    Name: Thomas Collins
    Date of Conviction: 9 Sep 1789
    Place of Conviction: Middlesex
    Vessel: Scarborough
    Date of Arrival: Jun 1790
    (New South Wales, Australia, Convict Indents, 1788-1842)


     
    Died 18 Feb 1820  Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Thomas Collins was aged 54 and Free, religion Church of England, St Phillip's Church, Sydney, County of Cumberland.
      Death Certificate Number 211 VB

      Thomas Collins
      Trial: Middlesex, 9 Sep 1789
      Sentence: Life
      Arrival on the Scarborough
      Death, Sydney, 19 Feb 1920
      Age: 54
      56,30,56,27.
      (Australia Convict Ships 1786-1849)
      (Early Convict Index, State Records of New South Wales)
    Buried 19 Feb 1820  St Phillips Church, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I13557  Hickey, List, Bundesen, Thomsen, Jensen, Jessen
    Last Modified 30 Mar 2018 

    Family 1 Sarah Mills 
    Married 26 Jul 1790  St Phillips Church of England, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Marriage Certificate 75 V3A

      Name: Thomas Collins
      Spouse Name: Sarah Mills
      Marriage Date: 1790
      Marriage Place: New South Wales
      Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
      Registration Year: 1790
      Volume Number: V A
      (New South Wales Marriage Index 1788-1965)

      First name(s) Thomas
      Last name Collins
      Denomination Church Of England
      Marriage year 1790
      Registration year 1790
      Registration district Sydney, St Phillip's
      State New South Wales
      Country Australia
      Spouse's first name(s) Sarah
      Spouse's last name Mills
      Registration number -
      Volume reference V179075 3A
      Cross reference -
      Record set New South Wales Marriages 1788-1945
      Category Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
      Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
      Collections from Australia & New Zealand
      (New South Wales Marriage Index 1788-1965)
    Last Modified 30 Mar 2018 
    Family ID F4747  Group Sheet

    Family 2 Eleanor O'Brien 
    Children 
     1. Sarah Collins,   b. 20 Jun 1796, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Last Modified 1 Nov 2016 
    Family ID F4748  Group Sheet

    Family 3 Hannah Wane (Hannah (wife) ux of William Grave),   b. Circa 1785 - 1790, Cumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 27 Sep 1828, Hospital, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 38 years) 
    Children 
     1. George Collins,   b. Abt 1816, Cumberland St., The Rocks, Sydney, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location
    +2. William Collins,   b. Abt 1817, Cumberland St., The Rocks, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 5 Dec 1879, Grahamstown, New South wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 62 years)
    Last Modified 3 Jun 2014 
    Family ID F4728  Group Sheet

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    Thomas Collins
    Thomas Collins
    Thomas Collins
    Trial: Middlesex, 9 Sep 1789
    Sentence: Life
    Arrival on the Scarborough
    Death, Sydney, 19 Feb 1920
    Age: 54
    56,30,56,27.
    (Early Convict Index, State Records of New South Wales)
    (Australia Convict Ships 1786-1849)


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